Log In | Register
How embarrassing this must be for President Obama, whose major speech theme so far this campaign season has been that every single American, no matter how rich, should pay their "fair share" of taxes.
Because how unfair -- indeed, un-American -- it is for an office worker like, say, Warren Buffet's secretary to dutifully pay her taxes, while some well-to-do people with better educations and higher incomes end up paying a much smaller tax rate.
Or, worse, skipping their taxes altogether.
36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes
Seeded on Thu Jan 26, 2012 10:56 AM EST
Article Source: news.investors.com
- Enjoy this article? Help vote it up the 'Vine.
- Public Discussion (57)
A new report just out from the Internal Revenue Service reveals that 36 of President Obama's executive office staff owe the country $833,970 in back taxes. These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven't paid any share, let alone their fair share.
Previous reports have shown how well-paid Obama's White House staff is, with 457 aides pulling down more than $37 million last year. That's up seven workers and nearly $4 million from the Bush administration's last year.
- 11 votes
When Obama saids fair share and higher taxes he is only talking about republicans evidently, I guess if you work for Obama fair share doesnt apply. I cant figure out why this is allowed by t h IRS we have people that working here that owe just a few thousand and the IRS is taking money from their pay checks but then again they dont work for Obama or are democrats in Washington like TG or Daschle. I bet you wont get to many comments from the liberals on NV about this article some how it will be overlooked by them lol.
- 14 votes
36 Obama aides owe $833,000 in back taxes
So now it's Obama's fault that people don't pay their taxes. Give me a break. People will come up with any kind of shyt to try and discredit Obama.
Lets see now, Bush, Clinton, Regan, older Bush and other presidents robbed the Social security funds. Why aren't people bytching about that.
Boehner is involved with Insider Trading approved by congress involved with it as well. No one is bytching about that either.
- 3 votes
Please tell me where ANYONE said it was Obama's fault. These are people in Obama's inner circle. One would think he WOULD care.
I hold a mortgage broker's license. If the IRS filed a judgment against me, I'd LOSE MY LICENSE AND MY JOB. Why should I be held to a higher standard than people paid BY the government?
- 8 votes
Maybe all the talk about transparency is having some effect. In the President's case the whole affair is probably "out of sight..out of mind."
- 1 vote
Please tell me where ANYONE said it was Obama's fault. These are people in Obama's inner circle. One would think he WOULD care.
So I guess every employer is now suppose to be responsible for people filing their tax returns.
Obama is not responsible for his friends, workers, or family members for filing their tax returns. these people are responsible for their own tax returns and should be made to pay up.
It's not Obama's fault for people not paying their taxes.
- 4 votes
Did you read the rest of my post? YES, employers DO CARE whether someone pays their taxes when it is this type of job, OR a type of job where your credit-worthiness is paramount. Insurance agents, mortgage brokers, bankers, lenders, stock brokers - some licenses are based on credit rating. so WTF should government employees be exempt?
P.S. You can FILE your tax returns just fine and not PAY YOUR TAXES you know!
- 6 votes
elaine, since this is a duplicate seed I will post a duplicate post to one I did on the origional. The FACTS remain the same.......
Interesting choice.....investor's business daily's website. And Andew Malcom.......isn't his piece a "blog" He did bring up bush the moral/mental midget's "aides" but seems to have failed to say how many of them "OWE" backtaxes and I'm pretty confident that there are some! And LOTS of people "owe" back taxes and that doesn't mean that they aren't PAYING on that debt and that part isn't addressed in the hit piece. I have known friends who got popped on that issues throught little if any fault of their own......
When mr malcom stated, " These people working for Mr. Fair Share apparently haven't paid any share, let alone their fair share." I'm pretty sure he doesn't have ALL the facts but certainly willing to make the unsupported alligation and the fools and lemmings jump right onboard.
AND >>>>OH WOW......aides to the WH owe all of 833,000. BIG DEAL! HOUSE OF REPS....you know, mostly GNOP.....owe more than 8.5 MILLION!!!!! And I'm using good ol malcom's source! Senate owe a little over 1.1 MILL. ACTIVE duty military.....a whopping 111,027,905 and that is small potatoes to what the postal service OWES......OVER 269 million. WE aren't even addressing many companies and their upper management who outsource the profits made here cause their tools in the house wrote the rules so they could!
- 2 votes
elaine, since this is a duplicate seed
It didn't say it was a duplicate seed when I posted it, so maybe the other is the duplicate.
- 5 votes
People will come up with any kind of shyt to try and discredit Obama.
He does a fine job of that all by himself. He don't need no stinkin help - LOL!
- 7 votes
it was posted before yours, by almost an hour.....Hence the duplicate.
That's interesting, any time I've ever seeded an article that was a duplicate, the system said it was a duplicate and I didn't seed it. This time it didn't.
- 3 votes
Most of the time it gets me before I get a chance to post....sorry about being the bearer of bad tiddings and please don't shoot the messenger.
Not shooting anyone, just stating the facts, and I still haven't seen the "other" article.
- 4 votes
Amazing since he just gave a majority of them massive pay raises ranging from 14% to 87% and they still can't pay their taxes?
Sorry time for them to GO! All of them!
- 6 votes
I have absolutely no sympathy for any of them. A POTUS and his ADMINISTRATION should lead by example and I've yet to see one good one!!!
- 4 votes
Yes that is right we will find every story every fact that shows beyond doubt what a hypocritical, low down, dirty, lying ass snake, Obama really is. Get used to it, cause apparently his holiness ain't so damned holy after all.
- 3 votes
This is an absolute TRAVESTY! Of course, the IRS knows exactly where to find these people, and since the government ISSUES the pay checks I'm sure they can figure out how to attach these wages. I am appalled and disgusted! I do believe that the active military members owing taxes should be given payment plans, but the rest should have to go out and get a loan and pay up, or LOSE THEIR CUSHY JOBS!
Oh, wait a minute - are these the people liberals insist are too poor to pay taxes???????
- 9 votes
#2 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:10 AM ESTOf course, the IRS knows exactly where to find these people, and since the government ISSUES the pay checks I'm sure they can figure out how to attach these wages.
That's a very good point Boudicea! Why doesn't the IRS garnish their wages for taxes owed? The IRS will chance anyone else down for 5 cents owed....why not these privileged people?
- 8 votes
Go after them for back taxes, simple. Who cares what their political beliefs are or who they work for. They have been found out, now make them pay.
Of course this is Washington we are talking about so i doubt that will actually happen.
#3 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:45 AM ESTDare I point out that it is HIGHLY likely that the VAST majority of these people are unionized? They are, after all, government workers. There is NO WAY Obama or the DoJ or the IRS will go after them in an election year.
- 6 votes
#4 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:49 AM ESTFollow the LINK for the report and you get a little chart that spells out ( sort of) owed taxes to the IRS by all govt. employees.
From the Senate ( no political parties given) over $2 million
House of Representatives ( again no party) over $8.5million
I'm not going to worry about active military and postal service - most of those people don't make much money but they owe huge amounts total.
http://sidschwab.blogspot.com/2012/01/rs-love-tax-cheats.html
It looks like they aren't that worried about some people paying their back taxes. But it's fun to point fingers.
- 1 vote
#5 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 11:50 AM ESTNot worry about the POSTAL service?
"they don't make much money?"
http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/US-Postal-Service-Salaries-E3032.htm
Oh, you can worry about them, all right!
- 5 votes
The top salary there was $75k...compare that to our Senators and Representives and NO I'm not going to worry too much about that. Maybe 75k is huge bucks to you, to me it's not ( but then again I'm one of those liberals you know- classwarfare and all./s) The number of postal employees vs. the number of Washington employees is slightly different, a big of a different ratio. If we look at the military ( which I'm not particularly concerned about either) we have a huge range of salaries, but that chart doesn't really break it down by rank and position either.
The fact is there are vast numbers of americans that don't pay their tax bills. We all should. Many don't for varying reasons. If you have ever owed the IRS ( I haven't personally but know people who have -both Rs and Ds ) it's not fun, usually they catch up with you and your bill has only grown.
- 2 votes
klm - where I live, $75,000 a year is a GREAT salary. Definitely high enough to be able to afford your friggin taxes!
- 8 votes
Geez, I wished I made 75 K a year, but I don't begrudge them that...if they earn it, more power to them. And, boud, you are right taxes shouldn't be much of a problem, and think of all those days off, with benes and a nice cushy retirement... no winder the USPS is BROKE.
- 5 votes
I find this to be an interesting conversation.
To this "classwarfare" liberal 75k is not a lot of money. It's a decent salary. Right smack in the middle of the middle class. What would the tax bracket be for a person making that salary? About 25% Yet guys like Romney paid what? A bit under 13%
There are a lot reasons people end up owing the IRS. Take for instance a person who makes $7 + comm. and still came in under the poverty level , how could that person end up owing $600 in taxes? What would happen if that person didn't have someone who could step up and help out? Ideas?
Ever heard of someone owing the IRS after a business fails? Many thousands of dollars, what was once business is now personal? It happens.
Geez, I wished I made 75 K a year, but I don't begrudge them that...if they earn it, more power to them.
IF they earn it... what exactly does "earn" mean these days? Worked for it? Capital gains? Which is not likely in that income bracket. Like I "wish" I could make a million dollars and you know what I'd be willling 40% because I'd still be making far more than I do now. I wouldn't need a tax code that unfairly targets the middle class.
If someone makes $75,000 there is no reason they can't afford to pay their taxes. It really depends on where you live, you know? In NYC that might not be much, but in Western PA, it's UPPER middle class.
- 2 votes
Wasnt it Obama who requested that we judge him by the people he surrounds himself with?
- 9 votes
#6 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:27 PM ESTYou're absolutely right, Steve. A person is known by the company he keeps!
- 7 votes
Wasnt it Obama who requested that we judge him by the people he surrounds himself with?
Steve-2081387...this is priceless!!
The message I'm getting from this government is "Do As I Say, NOT As I DO".
- 6 votes
Since the report is for all employees and Retirees, how in the world do you come up with the ridiculous assumption that this all comes from the present 36 Obama aides? For Christ's sake read your own sources before you spew your right wing nonsense. For all we know, these could be back taxes owed by previous administrations. There is no breakdown by Presidential administration.
- 1 vote
#7 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 1:51 PM ESTDid you read the article? It specified 36 obama aides INCLUDED in the thousands and thousands.
- 7 votes
Yes, I read the article and then I read the report the article was based on. Did you read the report? It includes employees and retirees. At no point does the report separate out Presidential administrations. The article is a joke.
- 1 vote
"Executive Office of the President $833,970"
So, yes Borncorn , it does say it !
- 4 votes
Which President? The report includes retirees. This could be any present or PAST individual that has worked in the Executive office of the President.
I didn't see anywhere in that article where it came close to naming the 36 Obama aids. Who are they?
#8 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:47 PM ESTSo, I take it you did not read the report. Whatever.
See #7.5. Now, just WHO didn't actually read the report?
- 5 votes
#9 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 7:48 PM ESTAnother right wingnut doesn't actually read the report. Read the titles. They state that the numbers include retirees. Which Presidential administration they worked for is not separated out.
Now, just WHO didn't actually read the report?
The report has been read and the article states "36 Obama aides owe" so in interpreting the info at hand it would lead one to "trust" the statement. (as much as you can with media these days) The detailed report, is poorly detailed and the word "retirees" is just there on every list. So instead of "accusing" others of not reading "your" interpretation of the stats , we can just leave each other to their own "assumption" of the facts. (which is all anyone seems to do these days)
- 1 vote
the word "retirees" is just there on every list.
So, give me a good explanation of why retirees are included in the list?
FERDI Overview
-
The Federal Employee/Retiree Delinquency Initiative (FERDI) program was developed in 1993 to promote federal tax compliance among current and retired federal employees. The program incorporates the purpose and intent of Office of Government Ethics regulation 5 C.F.R.2635.809, which addresses the responsibility of federal employees to "satisfy in good faith their obligations as citizens, including all just financial obligations, especially those such as federal, state or local taxes that are imposed by law" . The following sections contain instructions for handling federal employee and retiree delinquencies.
This is just a continuation of Obamas entire circle of friends and cabinet appointees. Nothing new really.
It really does go to the question of character in this President. The man seems to enjoy surrounding himself with tax cheats, anarchist, Socialists, bigots and America haters. But then, most of us knew that 3 years ago.
http://commonsensewonder.blogspot.com/2012/01/more-obama-tax-cheats-something-to-hold.html
- 4 votes
#10 - Thu Jan 26, 2012 8:15 PM ESTThis is just a continuation of Obamas entire circle of friends and cabinet appointees.
No, it isn't. It is just a continuation of right wingnut nonsense. The report does not separate out employees by Presidential administration. It includes retirees.
- 1 vote
#11 - Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:32 AM ESTWhat difference does it make? If it were you or I the IRS would be hounding is constantly and adding hefty penalties and interest.
If you're in DC it's like who gives a rats ass...
Sorry, but if you work in the WH or in Congress, you should be suspended and/or removed until taxes are cleared up.
In the WH there is absolutely no excuse since Obama gave his staff 14-87% pay raises!
- 1 vote
Bill and Bud from Hernando Mississippi located a mule and bought it for $100.
The farmer agreed to deliver the mule the next day.
The next morning the farmer drove up and said, "Sorry, fellows, I have some bad news, the mule died last night."
...
Bill and Bud replied, "Well, then just give us our money back."
The farmer said, "Cain't do that. I went and spent it already."
They said, "OK then, just bring us the dead mule."
The farmer asked, "What in the world ya'll gonna do with a dead mule?"
Bill said, "We gonna raffle him off."
The farmer said, "You can't raffle off a dead mule!"
Bud said, "We shor can! Heck, we don't hafta tell nobody he's dead!"
A couple of weeks later, the farmer ran into Bill and Bud at the Piggly Wiggly grocery store and asked "What'd you fellers ever do with that dead mule?"
They said,"We raffled him off like we said we wuz gonna do."
Bill said,"Shucks, we sold 500 tickets fer two dollars apiece and made a profit of $998."
The farmer said,"dern, didn't anyone complain?"
Bud said, "Well, the feller who won got upset. So we gave him his two dollars back."
Bill and Bud now work for the gub'ment.
They're overseein' the Stimulus Program.
There should be a new rule:
Limit all U.S.politicians to two terms: One in office & One in prison.
Mississippi already does this.
- 2 votes
well there you go..............DC mentality
we are all the "little people', work on to support the insiders
#12 - Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:45 AM ESTYou're in Easy Mode. If you prefer, you can use XHTML Mode instead. |
As a new user, you may notice a few temporary content restrictions. Click here for more info.
