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Ants and Wasps are so stupid!

Sat May 29, 2010 10:03 AM EDT
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By Elaine-1503791
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I've seen nature documentaries showing how clever ants are, carrying things way bigger than they are over their little heads back to their colonies. And leaving trails so they know where they are and how to get back to the homestead. But the ants in my yard are so stupid! Every week we go through the same thing, they build their ant house right where the big human killing machine is going to come mow right over and kill them. And then the murderous human pushing the big machine is going to come back and put poison to polish them off.

Now, there is a woodline two feet over from the mowed area where they like to gather, and if they'd just move their operation over by two feet, we'd be living sympatico. I could mow and wave hello, how's the babies, how's mom, good, great.....have a nice ant day. But NO, they have got to put the colony a foot the other way where the nice mowed grass is.

If I were in the ant colony I'd revolt against the head house hunter in charge of finding a spot for the new colony, and I'd commit mutany! You're a terrible house picker, you get us killed every week. I think he's a sadistic little ant, he hears the killing machine coming, goes deep under the ant housing project and holds his little nose and closes his little eyes because he knows what's coming. Just about everybody but him gets killed, and then he starts over again.

Maybe the ants in the Amazon are advanced, but the ones in my yard are dumb as dirt.

Same with the wasps, we go through this every year. There is that nice wooded area where they could built some huge nests and I'd never bother them. But NO, they have to go the roof eaves route again. I guess they figure the group one inch over that got killed and poisoned last year weren't so smart, but one inch over is a better idea. Wrong again!

Whats a human to do? I don't want to kill them, I try logic and say......look....a beautiful woodline right there two feet over for you. Move it over dumbasses and we wouldn't have this problem.

Just got in from mowing, and a murderous rampage.

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Elaine-1503791

Anyone got any good tips for taming insects?

  • 5 votes
#1 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:04 AM EDT
DaVoH

Take a big bottle of Dial Liquid soap, mix it with about 2.5 gallons of hot water in a sprayer. Spray the insects and it'll work. The soap blocks their breathing pores on their shell and they drop instantly...

  • 4 votes
#1.1 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Thanks DaVoh, it just so happens I have a big bottle of Dial Liquid soap and a spray bottle. They're in for it now!

  • 3 votes
#1.2 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:21 AM EDT
DaVoH

You are welcome. I had a large swarm of wasps move into my house that I'm building last fall. It was about 2000 or so. Big huge orange wasps with black wings. Scary little boogers. Hot soapy water worked best. I really don't like bugs, so I stomped on them for insurance...

  • 2 votes
#1.3 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:25 AM EDT
Sherry working hard

Hey guys great post! I go thru issues with ants. I use organic killer stuff because my dumb cat lays on the areas. I am planting mints around I do not kow if this works I heard it does. People have said they plant mint around their homes and it stops ants fom comming in, so I am doing it in my yard and flower beds. *sigh* today I will resume the weed pulling postion. I had some ants move in yesterday.

Good kill Da the ole double tap. I am allergic to bees I sat on one and the doc. could not stop laughing! My leg doubled in size, so when I see them I RUN. Now they were power washed off my house to I will see if there is anything to put up there. You

  • 2 votes
#1.4 - Sat May 29, 2010 3:51 PM EDT
DaVoH

Good kill Da the ole double tap

Ha! I'd get you with that, too...

  • 3 votes
#1.5 - Sat May 29, 2010 4:20 PM EDT
Sherry working hard

That's from Zombieland I thing rule 2 the running is being in cardio shape. It was a stupid movie but I liked the beginning with the "rules" . I am just a rule person I guess!

Come on you perv, its "I'm gonna tap that" not "double tap" If you do a sufficient job once you should not have to do a double :@

  • 2 votes
#1.6 - Sat May 29, 2010 4:30 PM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Hey Sherry, looks like we all have the ant epidemic. Scary being alergic to bees, got to be careful out there.....those little suckers are everywhere.

  • 2 votes
#1.7 - Sat May 29, 2010 4:38 PM EDT
Sherry working hard

Kill or be killed! I just swell, then prednisone which is a bad med for me it makes me meaner! ;]

  • 2 votes
#1.8 - Sat May 29, 2010 5:04 PM EDT
Elaine-1503791

I say kill!

  • 4 votes
#1.9 - Sat May 29, 2010 5:08 PM EDT
rickace

Anyone got any good tips for taming insects?

None. I say let the spiders eat 'em. Now in Texas where everything is larger than life, they've got these "social" spiders. World Wide Web? Can't catch a fly. This baby? A wasp's worst nightmare.

  • 5 votes
#1.10 - Sun May 30, 2010 10:55 AM EDT
Randilly

A wasps worst nightmare? There are a lot of wasp species that catch spiders, and feed them to their young. I would call that, a wasps wet dream.

  • 3 votes
#1.11 - Sun May 30, 2010 12:39 PM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Eewwwww!

  • 4 votes
#1.12 - Sun May 30, 2010 12:50 PM EDT
dungbeetlemania

rickace, I see your big web and raise you a giant yellow-jacket nest.

  • 3 votes
#1.13 - Sun May 30, 2010 3:01 PM EDT
Randilly

giant yellow-jacket nest.

That is a biggie. It must have been a brave person to take that picture. I'd have pooped my pants, and taken off running long before I got that close.. Did they call the Air Force to napalm that junkyard, or what?

  • 2 votes
#1.14 - Sun May 30, 2010 3:29 PM EDT
rickace

dungbeetlemania

rickace, I see your big web and raise you a giant yellow-jacket nest.

Holy flying stinging insects, Batman! A perfect match for that megaweb in Texas.

Love that antique vee-hicle. The shift on the column and the design of the steering wheel look 1950-ish. Come to think of it, so do I!

  • 2 votes
#1.15 - Sun May 30, 2010 3:56 PM EDT
Elaine-1503791

YE-GADS! the yellow jacket nest and giant web! Holy Moly!

Ok, you know, my yard is looking more like a nicely mowed, peaceful place, with a flower bed and maybe a little bitty ant or two running around....the odd mosquito or two in the air.......but other than that.....it's pretty good!

Holy-Cow!

  • 3 votes
#1.16 - Sun May 30, 2010 5:28 PM EDT
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Peter Faden

Fire seems to work!

  • 3 votes
Reply#2 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:34 AM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Peter, funny you should say that. I live in a rural area where burning is allowed and most people out here have a burn pile on their property. I may have to have lots of little burn piles in my yard.

Here I am trying to have a nice looking lawn and those ants have just pushed me too far!

Hope I don't catch the house on fire going after the wasps....ha-ha

  • 3 votes
Reply#3 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:43 AM EDT
Peter Faden

May sound strange, but have you considered using smoke like beekeepers use...they keep it in containers, and use it to pacify the bees for removal, transport, and so on?

  • 3 votes
#3.1 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:53 AM EDT
Elaine-1503791

Will have to look into that, thanks. I'll try anything.

  • 4 votes
#3.2 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:56 AM EDT
Sherry working hard

kill the fukers. Then run like a demon is after your ass!

  • 4 votes
#3.3 - Sat May 29, 2010 3:53 PM EDT
rickace

Sher

Then run like a demon is after your ass!

LOL. Hundreds of demons. There's a reason for the American idiom "stirring the hornets' nest" ^_^

  • 2 votes
#3.4 - Sun May 30, 2010 10:57 AM EDT
nonStitiousZealot

OK , the following method does not kill ants . It just forces them to
find other accommodations . I realize that this will lose me points
in my guy status ratings since it doesn't involve fire ,guns or explosives ;
but I'm willing to share this technique with the vine if there is interest .
Hint : germ warfare .

    #3.5 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:20 PM EDT
    Elaine-1503791

    What is it nonStitious?

    • 2 votes
    #3.6 - Mon May 31, 2010 12:11 AM EDT
    nonStitiousZealot

    OK , this is the step by step procedure [It does require patience .] :

    1] Cook a meal in a big pot , preferably with meat .

    2] After removing the food do NOT clean the pot .
    Instead just fill it with water and add dish detergent . You should use
    regular dish detergent and not the anti-bacterial type .

    3] Put the pot aside for a few days . [I realize some people
    will find this distasteful , but you have to think like a bachelor here ;
    the minimum effort to clean things . ]

    4] After it begins to smell bad from bacterial growth it is ready to use .
    Locate the ant hill . Take a small shovel and dig a depression in the middle
    of the hill . Decant the contents of the pot into the depression .
    Now you can properly clean the pot .

    5] The ants will relocate their hill , maybe not enough but you can repeat
    this process until they do move far enough . The only real problem is you can't
    tell which direction they will move .

    This method was actually used successfully by someone with an organic farm .

    • 3 votes
    #3.7 - Mon May 31, 2010 12:56 AM EDT
    Elaine-1503791

    Thanks nonStitious, that makes sense and I love hearing what they do on organic farms to fight the ants. Thanks for sharing, I will give that a try.

    • 1 vote
    #3.8 - Mon May 31, 2010 9:01 AM EDT
    Blayde

    nsz, that is brilliant, thanks for the tip. I don't have a problem with ants right now but one never knows. A funny anthropomorphic thought about the pot full of rotting meat: I wonder if the ants think the humans are stupid for putting a septic tank on top or their colony? I wonder if there is a technique for wasps and hornets?

      #3.9 - Mon May 31, 2010 11:01 AM EDT
      nonStitiousZealot

      Elaine ,

      Best of luck with employing it . Let us know how it turns out .

      Blayde ,

      I wonder if there is a technique for wasps and hornets?

      I suppose if you're willing to get stung it could be done .
      I just don't "love" nature that much .

        #3.10 - Mon May 31, 2010 12:27 PM EDT
        Reply
        Atsidi

        Don't know how it would be verified, but I read once that there is no known species of insect that has ever gone extinct. Best I have ever been able to do is to fight sort of a holding action. Aphids are my nemesis and the ants that raise them.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#4 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:48 AM EDT
        dungbeetlemania

        There are plenty of extinct insects found in ancient amber all the time.

        Elaine-1503791, you're fighting a bit of a losing battle I'm afraid. The reason they choose to build there is because the position is great. And you're making it great by mowing it and having nice secluded eaves under your roof. The poor things cannot do otherwise.

        • 4 votes
        #4.1 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:58 AM EDT
        Elaine-1503791

        I know dungbeetle, but the woodlline is just two feet over! Why can't they be reasonable and go that direction? All shaded and private and undisturbed natural woods. I'd never bother them at all if they'd just do that.

        • 3 votes
        #4.2 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:02 PM EDT
        Atsidi

        Are those insects found in amber extinct. or just long time dead?

        • 2 votes
        #4.3 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:23 PM EDT
        dungbeetlemania

        Elaine-1503791, I suspect that the ants love the short grass, maybe they even take the clippings down. You're giving them a wonderful place to set up house :)

        Atsidi, there are plenty that are genuinely extinct. Some have been found in amber, others in more traditional fossils. For a truly stupendous example check out Meganeura, an entire genus of extinct dragonfly species that includes individuals with wing spans of 75cm.

        • 5 votes
        #4.4 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:32 PM EDT
        Atsidi

        Can't say that it bothers me to find that out. Wonder what they fed on?

        • 3 votes
        #4.5 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
        dungbeetlemania

        Hover your mouse over the link (or better yet click it) to find out ;)

        • 4 votes
        #4.6 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:56 PM EDT
        rickace

        Atsidi

        Aphids are my nemesis and the ants that raise them.

        Ladybugs. They not only eat aphids, they don't pester us humans and they are cute as the dickens.

        I live in rural northeastern PA and last fall our area had a swarm like I've never seen before. Around a hundred or two hundred or so found their way indoors through cracks around an air conditioner and then I was faced with controlling them! After removing the AC and closing the window, I used a vacuum cleaner with a hose to contain the intruders. Nevertheless many remained, and a few times a day I'd spot one on the window next to my desk. I'd grab a piece of paper and scoop the ladybug onto it, then open the window and set him/her free to do whatever it is they do.

        Fortunately they do not reproduce indoors. But outdoors they're a gardener's best friend.

        • 3 votes
        #4.7 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:08 AM EDT
        MJV in Wisconsin

        I live in rural northeastern PA and last fall our area had a swarm like I've never seen before. Around a hundred or two hundred or so found their way indoors through cracks around an air conditioner and then I was faced with controlling them!

        Are you sure those weren't Japanese Lady Beetles instead of Ladybugs. The Japanese beetle is a different color (less red in the shell) then the Ladybug.

        • 1 vote
        #4.8 - Thu Jul 15, 2010 11:02 AM EDT
        Reply
        Elaine-1503791

        I hear you Atsidi, those pesky critters! Aphids too.....we should write an article about them as well. Who knows, maybe some Viner has a tip we haven't heard of yet.

        • 3 votes
        Reply#5 - Sat May 29, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
        Atsidi

        I have considered chemical warfare, but I really don't want to resort to that because there are a lot of bugs out there that I don't mind having around, well, a few anyway. I know soap and chilie powder are supposed to work as a repellent more than anything. I may try buying a bunch of lady bugs and mantis cases. Mostly my gardening efforts are a ritual left over from growing up on a farm and given the length of summer around here, largely an exercise in futility anyway ------and a strain on the well pump.

          #5.1 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:22 AM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          Atsidi, I felt especially cruel one day, someone said their grandmother takes a pot of boiling water out and pours it over the ants to kill them. I did it.....it wasn't pretty. It hurt my sensitive nature.

          I even told the ants one day, "whoever is in charge of finding you guys a new homestead in this yard is a dumbass! Move it over two feet to the woodline and I wouldn't be out here murdering you.....again!" Then I noticed my neighbor watching me yell at the ants and I went back inside!

          • 3 votes
          #5.2 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:30 AM EDT
          Atsidi

          Sounds like me and the flock of pigeons we have acquired. I keep feeding them and telling them that one of these days they are liable to have to pay the price for all that free food and wind up in the oven, but they don't seem to care and keep coming back for more. How am I supposed to kill and eat something that follows me around out in the yard every time I go out just to see what I am up to now?

          • 2 votes
          #5.3 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:37 AM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          Yep, it's a dilema, especially if they're following you around. They probably think you're their mom! (or dad!)

          I'm not willing to go the chocolate covered ant route yet, but I'm threatening!

          • 3 votes
          #5.4 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:46 AM EDT
          Atsidi

          They know I'm the food guy.

          Ever watch Andrew Zimman on bizzare foods? Some countries have insects as a major food source. Well if bad comes to worse, you have a supply of survival food out in the yard.

          • 2 votes
          #5.5 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:00 PM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          Atsidi, sure have seen Zimman, but to be honest, it's more than I can take at times....weak stomach I guess. Same with Bear Grylls on Man vs Wild, love his show but when he starts eating eyeballs and other gross body parts raw, I jump up and run to the toilet and wretch! I always think....I love your show Bear.....but I can't handle it when you do that!

          • 3 votes
          #5.6 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:43 PM EDT
          Atsidi

          Have been told that I have a cast iron stomach, but I would have to be a lot hungrier than I have ever been to eat some of that stuff. It is good info to know though.

          • 3 votes
          #5.7 - Sat May 29, 2010 1:15 PM EDT
          rickace

          Atsidi

          Have been told that I have a cast iron stomach

          I do as well, sorta. The trick is knowing what riles it up. For me, mixing fats (e.g., ice cream) and coffee will bring on the tummyache from hell that goes on for hours.

          Anyhoo back on topic. Back when I was a kid in the 1960s somebody had some chocolate-covered bees. You can't make this stuff up. Bee carcasses dumped into molten chocolate, which was then solidified, wrapped up, and sold as candy. The bizarre thing is that there was a market for this stuff. I found this "candy" repulsive and shunned it like the plague.

          Ewwwwwwwww!

          • 1 vote
          #5.8 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:30 AM EDT
          Reply
          Decurion_505

          Ants aren't stupid, just stubborn. Wasps and hornets may not be so bright either, but be careful. Wasps and hornets are the carnivorous cousins of bees, and their venom packs quite a wallop. Bee (and ant) venoms are mostly simple formic acid; wasp and hornet venoms are complex neurotoxins similar to those of cobras, cone shells, and jellyfish. Allergies make the reactions potentially lethal and even in cases of no allergy, a sufficient number of stings may cause respiratory distress, ascending paralysis and may be fatal.

          I do enjoy my gardening, but I am always very much aware and respectful of my well armed insect neighbors.

          • 3 votes
          Reply#6 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:30 PM EDT
          dungbeetlemania

          Yup, here's a recent seed of a cautionary tale.

          • 5 votes
          #6.1 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:35 PM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          Thanks Decurion, I knew someone would catch me on the 'ants are stupid' remark even though I was writing from a satirical point of view. That's why I at least acknowledged watching documentaries showing how smart they are. I have to say, they're obviously smarter than me.....they don't go away no matter what lethal measures I take.

          And thanks for the interesting info on stings and venom etc. Enjoyed reading what you said. For the wasps and hornets I'm using Ortho hornet and wasp....have to say, good stuff. You stand way back, point and spray and they immediately die before even having a chance to swarm. Of course, I shoot and run inside anyway....just in case.

          • 4 votes
          #6.2 - Sat May 29, 2010 12:38 PM EDT
          Decurion_505

          Stubborn, stupid, or otherwise, ants are hard to get rid of for the simple fact that they go to extraordinary measures to protect their queens. Ordinary poison "baits" don't work because they work too quickly: worker ants die and that "food" source is no longer used. Liquid pesticides don't work (short of total saturation of the surrounding soil) because at the first hint of such toxins in their environment they will move the queen to a safer location and mark-off the contaminated area. Now if you want to talk about dumb insects, there's always cockroaches. Disgusting critters, but wa-a-a-y easier to get rid of than ants.

          • 2 votes
          #6.3 - Sat May 29, 2010 2:38 PM EDT
          Elaine-1503791

          I learned a good trick with the cockroaches. Living in Louisiana, we have every bug known to God here and some I'm not sure he even knows about. A simple thing is caulk. It works. Every place I live, I caulk (or weather strip) every single spot a critter could possibly come through and voila', no bugs in the house.....nice. Of course, open the door and a pesky mosquito is sure to get in. Horrible little blood suckers. If I could ask God one question.....why mosquitos? I know the fish like to eat them, but aren't there other bugs the fish could eat?

          • 3 votes
          #6.4 - Sat May 29, 2010 2:47 PM EDT
          Decurion_505

          Beetle, link in #6.1 is busted or something.

          cockroaches... I caulk (or weather strip) every single spot a critter could possibly come through and voila', no bugs in the house...

          Exactly right, Elaine. Here in South Carolina the polite term is "palmetto bug", and in many instances have surpassed the official state bird in size as well as frequency of sightings.

            #6.5 - Sun May 30, 2010 1:43 AM EDT
            dungbeetlemania

            Decurion_505, I don't know what happened to that link. Sorry, here it is again:

            Africanized Bees Attack Florida Man

            • 2 votes
            #6.6 - Sun May 30, 2010 3:34 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Decurion, didn't know any place had bigger cockroaches than here, especially those wood roaches. They must be the same ones you guys call palmetto bugs. Bigger than the official state bird! ha-ha-ha....ok, you win on that one. Thats scary! But I'm pretty sure they have bug family relatives here in LA!

            Have you seen the terminex commercial with the big cockroaches? yuch

            • 2 votes
            #6.7 - Sun May 30, 2010 7:34 AM EDT
            rickace

            Decurion_505

            Bee (and ant) venoms are mostly simple formic acid

            The Spanish noun for ant is hormiga, which closely parallels "formic". Dunno the word for bee, but wasp is avispa.

            • 3 votes
            #6.8 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:34 AM EDT
            Reply
            Peter Faden

            I've talked about this in other seeds, but in the past, i've saturated anthills in gasoline, waited a little while, then lit it...*boom*....just dowse your house first (turns out that ants often develop widespread communities with (in one case) as many as seventeen distinct colonies...(all were devastated and they never rebuilt...did cause a fire tornado which did touch my house, but i had taken my own advice and dowsed the house and left the hose running)). Wasps will probably keep coming back though regardless of your efforts...just take em out as you can.

            • 4 votes
            Reply#7 - Sat May 29, 2010 11:29 PM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Wow, Peter, a fire tornado, that would be scary. The ants never came back? Hmm......gonna think about the fire idea. If only THEY had a natural predator. I guess we don't have many ant eaters here in America.

            • 2 votes
            #7.1 - Sun May 30, 2010 7:24 AM EDT
            Vlad's dog

            Elaine,

            Since you have woods near your property you probably have a few ant predators around. Some woodpeckers and other birds love ants, dig up the ant nest everyday in the morning. Skunks and possums and other varmints may eat ants at night so you could scoop a little of the nest in the evening too. This is the only way I have found to wear them down with 'kindness' instead of an Armageddon approach.

            It takeas a little time but they move or are eaten out.

            • 2 votes
            #7.2 - Sun May 30, 2010 9:08 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Well.....thank you Vlad! I love that idea and I'm gonna do it. I actually hate being murderous. Thanks again and you prove that by being a Viner.....it makes you smarter..... cause others will come to your rescue with a solution! And my thanks to everyone here who've given me good ideas.

            • 3 votes
            #7.3 - Sun May 30, 2010 9:18 AM EDT
            Vlad's dog

            I like the idea of letting nature do its job for you. For some reason these ants feel safe there, so you have to change the environment so that they change that attitude. Good luck.

            just a small question, are they red or black ants?

            • 1 vote
            #7.4 - Sun May 30, 2010 9:23 AM EDT
            Elaine-1503791

            Vlad, I think both red and black ants. I even have huge carpenter ants. I have every creepy crawler critter known to God in my yard! Even crawfish in the ditch! Don't need to go down to the Gulf....little joke there.....very sad for our Gulf.

            • 3 votes
            #7.5 - Sun May 30, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
            Vlad's dog

            If you have both red and black ants, stir up the red ant nest and then introduce the red soldier ants to the black ant nest, a shovel full at a time. This may get you a quicker way to dispose of both. An invasion would freak them out.

            The gulf is a birthing ground for many animals, I think it will suffer for a while. It is sad.

              #7.6 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:06 AM EDT
              rickace

              Elaine

              Holy squrimin' vermin Batman! Vlad's got a nifty idea there. Let nature do its thang and pit two species against each other. Then sit back in your lawn chair and enjoy sipping an environmentally correct mixed drink prepared with Al Gore's own corn ethanol based Global Warming Vodka.

              • 2 votes
              #7.7 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:19 AM EDT
              Vlad's dog

              heheheheheh,

              You made me laugh rickace.

              Here is an even more intricate way to rid yourself of ants.

              Collect ant lions, which are small bugs that dig a pit of sandy soil and bury themselves down in the center of the pit and wait for the ants to slide into their waiting jaws, place them around the ant nest and watch the action.

              It would be like having your own natural 'feeding the christians to the lions' added to the red/black gladatorial fights of my first suggestion.

              Elaine, you could even build a little colloseum and invite guests and sell drinks.

                #7.8 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:30 AM EDT
                Elaine-1503791

                Will take the advise and report back on the critter war in my yard!

                • 1 vote
                #7.9 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:36 AM EDT
                Atsidi

                Used to entertain myself for hours when I was a kid by taking a few red ands and some black and red ants and putting them in a teacup or small jar, and yes, I was a bored kid without a lot to do. I also got bit by ants a lot in some of my ant studies.

                • 2 votes
                #7.10 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:39 AM EDT
                rickace

                Vlad's dog

                You made me laugh rickace.

                ^_^ my pleasure ^_^

                You made me chuckle as well, with the metaphor of gladiatorial fights.

                And you have a fine idea there, letting Mother Nature do the job.

                A more difficult problem is combating an invasive species imported from a foreign ecology with no efficient predators in its new environment. One example is the kudzu vine imported in the 1800s from Asia as an ornamental shrub and forage crop. Little did we realize that it would become a pestilence in the southeast, where environmental conditions were just what it needed to thrive. In 1953 the USDA branded it as a "pest weed".

                Last I'd heard some folks were applying a low-tech solution: turning goats loose on the fields of kudzu.

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                #7.11 - Sun May 30, 2010 1:54 PM EDT
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                rickace

                Ants and Wasps are so stupid!

                And how about bees? Screw the Bees, I'm Glad They're Gone.

                Bee (sic) sure to peep the photoshopped pic of the honeybee with horns, tail, and pitchfork. And of course cast your vote in the poll.

                ^_^

                • 2 votes
                Reply#8 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:23 AM EDT
                Elaine-1503791

                Hey Rick, will check out the 'screw the bees story' and vote.....thankfully that's one problem I haven't experienced yet. I do have big ole hornets though. If it flies, crawls, bites, stings, or sucks blood, it's probably in my yard!

                I do like the ladybugs and I've got those too. I hope they win the war for me and eat every other living creature out there!

                • 3 votes
                #8.1 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:40 AM EDT
                Decurion_505

                Shucks, the only bees in my neighborhood are carpenter bees. No honeybees to pollinate my vegetables :( Bummer.

                • 1 vote
                #8.2 - Sun May 30, 2010 12:06 PM EDT
                Atsidi

                Same here, also some sort of a little bright green bee that I stay away from too. Not a whole lot of either one, but no honey bees at all.

                • 1 vote
                #8.3 - Sun May 30, 2010 12:14 PM EDT
                rickace

                Elaine

                If it flies, crawls, bites, stings, or sucks blood, it's probably in my yard!

                Ugh. We've got a few flying pests in our yard, but it sounds like you're far worse off.

                Re: "Screw the Bees": Bee sure to read all the comments as well. Clipped to GG.

                • 2 votes
                #8.4 - Sun May 30, 2010 2:04 PM EDT
                Elaine-1503791

                Hi Rick, I did check out the article, but I didn't read all the comments....going back for another look. Thanks.

                • 3 votes
                #8.5 - Sun May 30, 2010 2:22 PM EDT
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                Blayde

                I have shown my sixth graders the joy of feeding ants but inevitably some overly aggressive boys come and stomp on the ants and the cookie that they are eating, I simply say, "If you stomp on the ants, a tornado will crush your house." I know it doesn't make sense but it is Buddhist philosophy. I feel terrible about the fact that I killed a family of squirrels that invaded my attic but I could pay for my insensitivity, perhaps I will come back as a happy squirrel, playing on the vine, only to be blasted out of existence by a crazy human with a shotgun. I should have cut the vine, long before the squirrels figured out that I have an attic. Elaine, perhaps you have an inviting yard, or yet again perhaps you are fighting the inevitable victor... Nature.

                • 1 vote
                Reply#9 - Sun May 30, 2010 7:11 PM EDT
                Elaine-1503791

                Blayde, I like the way you think. It hurts me to hurt the ants and that is why I 'yell' at them to move it over two feet to the woodline so we can live in harmony! I agree it all belongs to nature and nature will have it all back when we're gone! Until then....I guess it's just a battle. ha-ha. And you know what...when I'm walking along and see an ant on the sidewalk, I can't even step on it. Next week I'll get mad at them again when 'they make me' mow over them again.

                Thanks...

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                #9.1 - Sun May 30, 2010 7:21 PM EDT
                Blayde

                Elaine, we live in the reality of Nature, we can't help but get pissed, it is just that we can't win. Wasps? They didn't seem to predict man, most animals stung by a wasp let out a scream and run away but men favor revenge. When I get stung I want to kill every maggot in the nest plus, I want to squirt, burning gasoline on the adults that are trying to protect the nest. Last year in the fall I made the mistake of stepping on a nest of hornets, I ran a quarter mile trying to get them off of me, they stung the $h!t out of me but I was laughing hysterically at my mistake. My dog was in the same predicament and that added to the laughs. I didn't go back and kill the under ground nest, it wasn't in my yard. They don't know whose yard they are in but it is really hard not to blow the crap out of them.

                  #9.2 - Sun May 30, 2010 7:41 PM EDT
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                  Peter Faden

                  Perhaps signing a treaty between your nation and theirs would be best, lol.
                  I like the idea of forcing a war between different ant colonies. The only problem with this though, is one colony will invariably win, and without competition, they generally grow larger than the combined numbers from the separate colonies.

                  • 3 votes
                  Reply#10 - Sun May 30, 2010 11:26 PM EDT
                  Jim Helbig

                  Elaine, I hope you get rid of the ants and wasps, but one way or another this is one funny article! You cracked me up!!!

                  • 2 votes
                  Reply#11 - Mon May 31, 2010 9:23 PM EDT
                  Elaine-1503791

                  Thanks so much Jim. You were my inspiration to try satire! I admit I was seriously mad at the ants, but I also realized I looked like an idiot out there yelling at them. I thought about my invitation to join the Satire Group.....and penned the ant and wasp story. So you are the inspiration and I really appreciate you reading it. What article next? I don't know....probably my car!

                  I once followed a tip by someones grandmother and poured boiling water on them. It was so upsetting I said, now look what you made me do! Move it over two feet will ya!

                  Anyways, after reading all the good advice from the above bug experts, I've learned it's a hopeless battle we all face, just kill them each week and get over it!

                  Thanks Jim

                  • 3 votes
                  #11.1 - Mon May 31, 2010 9:31 PM EDT
                  Jim Helbig

                  That's the trouble with the goofy little idiots----they are STUPID! They can't just move into the woods 2 feet away and live happily ever after, instead they choose to make total nuisances of themselves.

                  • 2 votes
                  #11.2 - Mon May 31, 2010 9:36 PM EDT
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                  TestAnxiety

                  These ants can't be that dumb. You've been waging a war of anhilation on them for some time and yet...you haven't won, have you?

                  I just got done taking the top 5 "homebrew, safe for everyone, works everytime" ant tips off the internet and mixing it in one bottle and dousing my land with it every other day for 3 days. Nuthin.

                  Cayenne pepper, Dawn, Simple Green, Murphy's Oil Soap and garlic. Absolutely no effect. Except that now my ants are squeaky clean.

                  I'm *this far* from buying an anteater and nailing one of his feet down in the yard.

                  • 5 votes
                  Reply#12 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:17 AM EDT
                  Jim Helbig

                  I'm *this far* from buying an anteater and nailing one of his feet down in the yard

                  LOL! Are you sure the anteater would like the squeaky clean ants? At least the cayenne pepper would season them a little.

                  • 2 votes
                  #12.1 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 9:31 AM EDT
                  Blayde

                  I favor the idea of eating bugs, who is the biggest enemy of organic gardening or animal husbandry? Insects; if you want to save the planet become an insectivore. Grass hoppers have potential, I have roasted them but they need seasoning. Don't ask me about my first attempt, it was a disaster like Hiroshima; put them on skewers first.

                    #12.2 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 8:12 PM EDT
                    Elaine-1503791

                    Blayde.....you're very brave. When I watch Man vs Wild, it's so disgusting to me when he starts eating the grubs and bugs and anything else he comes across. But I have to hand it to him, he is teaching people how to survive in the wild, and if it came right down to it, starvation might just force even a girl like me to eat them! Hopefully I never get that desperate, but one never knows about life.....do we.

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.3 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 8:30 PM EDT
                    TestAnxiety

                    I don't think I have the patience to eat enough ants to get full.

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.4 - Wed Jun 2, 2010 7:05 AM EDT
                    Elaine-1503791

                    Ha-ha good point Test.....does seems like it would take all day, lol!

                    • 1 vote
                    #12.5 - Wed Jun 2, 2010 7:13 AM EDT
                    Peter Faden

                    Actually, there's a Jeff Corwin episode on the Food Network (can't remember his shows name there( where he goes to Mexico and is shown how to hunt for ant grubs and turn them into a "good" meal....since he always describes everything as having a buttery taste, can't really tell if he truly enjoyed it or not though.

                    • 2 votes
                    #12.6 - Wed Jun 2, 2010 10:51 AM EDT
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                    Blayde

                    Just between you and me Elaine, a thunderstorm is rolling in and I am about to eat mac and cheese with, Asiago, spinach, turkey sausage (the guy makes them with thighs), coupled with tomatoes, onions and peppers marinated in olive oil, vinegar (with herbs), with a little salt and pepper. I'm like you I'll eat insects when I am forced to but good food is why I came out of the stone age. A stone age man has a memory but he will certainly buy the Joy of Cooking on his first trip out of the cave.

                    • 2 votes
                    Reply#13 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 8:49 PM EDT
                    Elaine-1503791

                    Mac and cheese with, Asiago, spinach, turkey sausage, coupled with tomatoes, onions and peppers marinated in olive oil, vinegar (with herbs), with a little salt and pepper! Oh yum!! Are you married? Don't answer that.....too person. Are you?

                    • 3 votes
                    #13.1 - Tue Jun 1, 2010 8:53 PM EDT
                    Elaine-1503791

                    Blayde, please accept apologies for putting you on the spot......I meant to put a LOL after that last question so you'd know I was joking. I'm not seeking answers to personal questions, and I'm not single so I really was kidding. I'm not married....but I have a boyfriend. So anyway....I'm sorry

                    • 4 votes
                    #13.2 - Wed Jun 2, 2010 7:17 AM EDT
                    Blayde

                    Elaine, I knew you were joking. I just wanted to make a point that I like to experiment with food however 98% of my meals are perfectly "normal" in some culture. I would like to try some of the stuff on Andrew Zimmer.

                    • 2 votes
                    #13.3 - Wed Jun 2, 2010 7:32 AM EDT
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                    mightyj

                    (:

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                    Reply#14 - Thu Jul 15, 2010 7:11 AM EDT
                    Matti Viikate

                    Thanks for the article, this one I did managed to vote up. It is terrible when there is problems with species you can't discuss with to solve it peacefully. I hope it get's better.

                    • 3 votes
                    Reply#15 - Fri Jul 15, 2011 3:15 PM EDT
                    Elaine-1503791

                    Thanks for checking out my articles Matti, I'm still battling those little varmits! They're letting me know they'll be around long after I'm gone. lol!

                    • 1 vote
                    #15.1 - Fri Jul 15, 2011 8:18 PM EDT
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